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Geoff Molloy's avatar

I provided a well deserved CATE to an known errant youth, whom I captured destroying market stalls in sunny London E1. Having administered said CATE, errant youth said "Eff you, I'm telling my dad" Unbeknown to him, I knew his address, so took him home and gave in into the hands of his father, a burly docker with light fingered tendencies and large fists. Having told him why I bought his son home, he politely said "Thank you officer. Sorry for 'is behaviour. 'E won't do it again" As the door shut, I heard the whimpering of a freshly beaten teenager, and words "What the eff do you think you were doing, I don't need coppers at my 'ouse" The errant youth never came to our attention again, and probably went on to live a long and fulfilled life outside of the prison estate, because of the combined forces of Plod, CATE and Dad's fists.

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Boris's avatar

From my POV as being retired for 17 years nothing has changed. The British public as a whole are incredibly squeamish and completely hypocritical about police use of force. Look at everyone's favourite tabloid, it will quite happily show a video and criticise the police for being 'woke' and then when an officer does get stuck in it will scream about police brutality. Truly a no win situation. I see there are the usual comments about police being soft, look at it this way, when virtually every police/public interaction is filmed I fully understand why officers are reluctant to use force. Given the state of our media would you want to be an internet sensation? I'm not surprised officers are reluctant to use force. I'd love a senior officer or politician to explain that police use of force is inherently messy and not pretty to look at but I'm not holding my breath.

I'll finish with a quote I've shamelessly borrowed from elsewhere 'never take advice about dealing with violent people from people who've never dealt with violent people;'.

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